[Meta Thread] Pokerole Mystery Dungeon: Primal Shadows

[Spiritmon]

Besides, depending of Dragon answer my previous question, Kogeki might give Cover to Daxter get some protection against Heabutt, and maybe use Quick Attack at the same turn to put Pyra out of the way of Boldore Rock Attack.

Pyra is weak to Rock attacks, but Kogeki is a ghost-type, so he have better chances of survive in case Boldore dont use either Dark or Ghost moves. Or didnt go critical in his next attack.

Kogeki have better chances of survive since he have 5 HP like Pyra, dont have the type disavantage. And yes, for the safety of a member of the group, I gonna do it.

You help a lot of times to Windos. And you know me: When I willing to help someone, even more a friend, I hard change my mind. We know each other 4 years for God sake

[Dragonstrike]

Dragon, it is possible for Kogeki act as Cover to Daxter survive the Headbutt strikes, and in case of Boldore use Power Gem or any Rock Type move on Pyra, to Kogeki use Quick Attack and put Pyra out of the way of Boldore attack and make Kogeki took all damage instead?

Cover's primarily for impeding the damage of Ranged moves.  If someone's close enough to use a Contact move, then Cover isn't going to be very effective against that attack.

Pyra's much taller than everyone else, currently standing at 3 feet tall compared to most everyone else's 1 foot or so.  It's difficult for anyone to provide effective cover for her as a result.

Daxter stands at almost 2 feet tall, so he could probably cover Pyra a little bit.

Edit: Actually, Kogeki is just over 2 feet tall (in fact, he's the second tallest one there). He could cover Pyra a little bit too. Wouldn't be Full Cover, and it would take an Action to do, but Kogeki could definitely provide some.

[Lord Windos]

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You help a lot of times to Windos. And you know me: When I willing to help someone, even more a friend, I hard change my mind. We know each other 4 years for God sake

...Hehehe, I know buddy, but what kind of friend would I be if I didn't try to keep your best interests in mind? Had to try, but if you insist, alright then. I just hope everything works for us in the end, 'cause I don't want any of us Fainting during our first Boss fight and having to worry about our Primal Scores from then on...

[Spiritmon]

Dragon, it is possible for Kogeki act as Cover to Daxter survive the Headbutt strikes, and in case of Boldore use Power Gem or any Rock Type move on Pyra, to Kogeki use Quick Attack and put Pyra out of the way of Boldore attack and make Kogeki took all damage instead?

Cover's primarily for impeding the damage of Ranged moves.  If someone's close enough to use a Contact move, then Cover isn't going to be very effective against that attack.

Pyra's much taller than everyone else, currently standing at 3 feet tall compared to most everyone else's 1 foot or so.  It's difficult for anyone to provide effective cover for her as a result.

Daxter stands at almost 2 feet tall, so he could probably cover Pyra a little bit.

Edit: Actually, Kogeki is just over 2 feet tall.  He could cover Pyra a little bit too.  Wouldn't be Full Cover, and it would take an Action to do, but Kogeki could definitely provide some.

My plan is not just Cover Pyra. Is do Cover protection to Daxter, and when Kogeki see Boldore use a Rock type move on Pyra, is use Quick Attack to double Kogeki speed and put Pyra out of the way of the attack and received all damage. That way, Pyra will survive the attack.

And prove to Kee and Karen that Kogeki is not a heartless vampire monster drainer of Auras.

[Lord Windos]

Dragon, it is possible for Kogeki act as Cover to Daxter survive the Headbutt strikes, and in case of Boldore use Power Gem or any Rock Type move on Pyra, to Kogeki use Quick Attack and put Pyra out of the way of Boldore attack and make Kogeki took all damage instead?

Cover's primarily for impeding the damage of Ranged moves.  If someone's close enough to use a Contact move, then Cover isn't going to be very effective against that attack.

Pyra's much taller than everyone else, currently standing at 3 feet tall compared to most everyone else's 1 foot or so.  It's difficult for anyone to provide effective cover for her as a result.

Daxter stands at almost 2 feet tall, so he could probably cover Pyra a little bit.

Edit: Actually, Kogeki is just over 2 feet tall (in fact, he's the second tallest one there).  He could cover Pyra a little bit too.  Wouldn't be Full Cover, and it would take an Action to do, but Kogeki could definitely provide some.

Huh, I thought Covering someone pretty much Protected them from all but Moves that don't require LoS or could conceivable ignore it, like Psychic, Spread/AoE Moves, and most Ghost Moves? Hmm, I suppose this is your interp of Cover, which is not all too bad of an idea, as unless the Coverer is actively trying to guard against all attacks it wouldn't take much work for someone to move around them to directly hit a Target (or at least, I think that's the logic behind the way your cover works).

You know, I never quite realized that Pyra was the biggest of the bunch until you pointed that out, Dragonstrike. Funny to know that now, and useful too! Not going to help her avoid attention one bit, but hey, she's not a shy gal so that should be a problem!

For your shake, Dragonstrike, even if Kogeki succeeds in Partially Covering Pyra, she'll still try to Evade any Rock Move thrown out by Boldore, I REALLY don't want her to get chunked. 1 Rock Damage = at 2 Damage for her at minimum, so I'm not taking any risks here.

[Spiritmon]

Guys, I not sure if I making myself clear about what I trying to do:

1 - Cover to Daxter to protect him against those Roggenrola attacks.

2 - And in case of Pyra be target from Boldore Rock type move, I use Quick Attack to double my speed, and push Pyra out of the way, saving her from Boldore Rock move, and taking all the damage of Boldore attack.

I have two excuses for this: Quick double the user speed. Second, since it is a priority move, I can use it. And third: It's not necessary a attack but more like a action of protection to save Pyra from a strong Rock-type move supper effective.

[Dragonstrike]

The book also specifically says Cover an Ally 'may provide cover against ranged attacks'.  So yes, the logic of an attacker attempting to make physical contact being able to just go around the cover is what's being applied.

[Lord Windos]

The book also specifically says Cover an Ally 'may provide cover against ranged attacks'.  So yes, the logic of an attacker attempting to make physical contact being able to just go around the cover is what's being applied.

That raises avquestion: Does the Corebook's definition explicitly state that Covering an Ally can't guard against Contact Moves? And if so, why? I can see static/nonliving Cover not doing jack skellyton against a Contact Move from a determined Pokemon unless its a Rampage or indiscriminate Move, but with living Cover can't the Pokemon in question just intercept the attacker by body blocking them or constantly preposition their ward away from them? Heck, with your revisions to Cover that arguably would make more sense that way, since the Covering Pokemon is actively focusing on shielding the Pokemon from attacks, so I do find it a mit bit incongruous that living Cover can't shield against Contact Moves in those instances.

[Lord Windos]

Guys, I not sure if I making myself clear about what I trying to do:

1 - Cover to Daxter to protect him against those Roggenrola attacks.

2 - And in case of Pyra be target from Boldore Rock type move, I use Quick Attack to double my speed, and push Pyra out of the way, saving her from Boldore Rock move, and taking all the damage of Boldore attack.

I have two excuses for this: Quick double the user speed. Second, since it is a priority move, I can use it. And third: It's not necessary a attack but more like a action of protection to save Pyra from a strong Rock-type move supper effective.

I'm not too sure Dragonstrike will let Quick Attack work as you wish, as what you're trying to do with the Move is sorta stretching what is capable of it. Of course, we've seen similar stunts being pulled with Moves in Iron's game, so there is president for it being possible, but this is their game, so.....I don't really know, mate.

[Dragonstrike]

That raises avquestion: Does the Corebook's definition explicitly state that Covering an Ally can't guard against Contact Moves? And if so, why? I can see static/nonliving Cover not doing jack skellyton against a Contact Move from a determined Pokemon unless its a Rampage or indiscriminate Move, but with living Cover can't the Pokemon in question just intercept the attacker by body blocking them or constantly preposition their ward away from them? Heck, with your revisions to Cover that arguably would make more sense that way, since the Covering Pokemon is actively focusing on shielding the Pokemon from attacks, so I do find it a mit bit incongruous that living Cover can't shield against Contact Moves in those instances.

It doesn't say it can't, but it doesn't say it can, either.  No mention of Contact moves, only Ranged.

Given the mechanics behind this game, I suppose I could roll opposing Dex checks or something to see if you can intercept Contact moves when Covering.  That's really the best way I can think to do something like that in Pokerole since there's no grid based maps to settle positioning disputes, which is the primary reason I'm reluctant to open that Pandora's Box.  That kind of Covering would certainly only be effective against one opponent at a time, however.