[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Chandelure is a Ghost Type and a spectral candelabra, is it even possible for this one to 'die'? o.o?

[Dragonstrike]

Chandelure is a Ghost Type and a spectral candelabra, is it even possible for this one to 'die'? o.o?

Ghost pokemon are still technically 'alive'.  They're not actual ghosts, just pokemon with spectral and creepy powers.  Or if they do involve actual spirits in some manner (like maybe Spiritomb, Phantump, and Yamask), they have physical form, so...

[Lord Windos]

Chandelure is a Ghost Type and a spectral candelabra, is it even possible for this one to 'die'? o.o?

Ven knows how to kill Ghost types, ranging from blasting it with enough powerful moves to dissolve/annialate their corporial form, exorcising them with holy water and chants, to trying and forcibly create a soul bond connection with the spirit and EAT THEIR SOULS, and even more delightful ways to perma kill them! His interests not only extend to academic and a natural fondness for the Ghost type, but also how to best defend and destroy them if necessary! Cheshire's Cleanse Tags were a hole in his knowledge, though, since such methods didn't exist like that in Unova (So another thing Cheshrie does better than the rest of the world!), but he'll soon patch that up with Shiva's help in due time!

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

Oooh, exorcising them with holy water sounds effective.
....I'll stick to Cleanse Tag and Poochyena, though.

[Dragonstrike]

Ven's not taking any chances with it at ALL, since he full well knows that give it any inch could result in him and Ao Guang getting a nice soul smoldering tan! Better be safe than sorry with highly Disobedient Pokémon with highly Lethal Moves/Traits available to it, after all!

As for leaving Chandleure to die, Ven's done far worse to Pokémon in terms of cruelity when they posed a threat to his/his Pokémon's life and wellbeing (Torturing the Delta Houndour to death claims that #1 spot!) , and he's not exactly concerned with how others view his actions so long as they are Legal/justified/He can get away with it, so not only would he be unconcerned by just leaving the ghost to wither away from Poisoning, its a better fate than just letting it be eaten alive by Apsis, put out by Ao Guang, or exorcised painfully by Ventus. Leaving it alone and/or unpoision is also not an option, since every Status on it makes it easier to capture (Which now that I think about it, since Orthros became Frozen, that's ANOTHER Status I could add onto it! Genuis!) , which as you point out will be rather hard with Pokeballs and 4 Disobedience/High Will Score....

Not a mandatory encounter.  Just sayin'.

Only type immune to Frozen is Ice.  Well, unless there's Strong Sunlight.  Then Freeze can't proc, period.  It's worth remembering that.  Fire is just a little harder to Freeze mid-combat because they can thaw themselves immediately at GM discretion (or with the right moves, such as Flame Wheel, they can thaw AND still attack.  Scald can do that too, funnily enough, so it's also kinda hard to freeze water pokemon that know that move.)

...it DOES make sense to inflict as many statuses as possible for capturing it since it is probably going to be a difficult pokemon to capture...but it is also equivalent to kicking an opponent after they've already been downed.  Which isn't going to endear Ventus to almost anybody in Creshire...

...but that's also assuming Kingdra lets up once Chandelure is KOed.  That could throw another wrench into this plan of Ventus's.

[Lord Windos]

Not a mandatory encounter.  Just sayin'.

Only type immune to Frozen is Ice.  Well, unless there's Strong Sunlight.  Then Freeze can't proc, period.  It's worth remembering that.  Fire is just a little harder to Freeze mid-combat because they can thaw themselves immediately at GM discretion (or with the right moves, such as Flame Wheel, they can thaw AND still attack.  Scald can do that too, funnily enough, so it's also kinda hard to freeze water pokemon that know that move.)

...it DOES make sense to inflict as many statuses as possible for capturing it since it is probably going to be a difficult pokemon to capture...but it is also equivalent to kicking an opponent after they've already been downed.  Which isn't going to endear Ventus to almost anybody in Creshire...

...but that's also assuming Kingdra lets up once Chandelure is KOed.  That could throw another wrench into this plan of Ventus's.

I know, but Ventus doesn't, and Ven being brutal about defending his friend/family is straight in line with his character, so why not let him be a bastard in this case? Especially since nobody else will be around to watch him do it anyway, and in the best case scenario Chandelure lives and gets traded away for nice items and a trainer that WILL take care of it, so....

Yeap, just like I thought, but if Grass types are immune to Sleep in this campaign, it might make sense for Fire types to be Immune to being Frozen on top of being Burned. Ven would also know that he couldn't Freeze an opponent in Strong Sunlight, but thanks for the reminder!

Indeed, which is why its getting Fainted, Paralyze, Frozen, and Poisoned to hedge my bets! Ventus also really doesn't care what others think of him of his self defense and feeding policies for his Pokémon/Friends/Loved Ones, besides trying to keep a clean enough image not to be dogpiled for it. Since they are in the middle of a Mt. with no cameras or other people around to bear witness to such brutality, and it being sent to the PC for healing won't raise any alarms since its possible for the ghost to contract those Statuses mid battle, its not likely Ven will run afoul of anyone doing this except Nathan (Which Ven can distinctly choose not to care about!) unless Iron decided to make a point about it.

If Ao Guang kills Chandlelure, however, Ven actually wouldn't care one bit, and actually even praise him for promptly dispatching a dangerous threat towards everyone's safety. Remember, this battle ain't just about capturing Chandlelure, but also starting things off nice and relatively safely with the Sea Lord. If that means letting the ghost die horribly to appease/bond with Ao Guang, then me and Ven will happily let it happen! No matter what happens to Chandlelure (Capture, Death by Ventus being Ventus, or Death by Ao Guang), it will be a net positive outcome, again assuming Iron doesn't make a point about it. Yay!

[Dragonstrike]

Yeap, just like I thought, but if Grass types are immune to Sleep in this campaign, it might make sense for Fire types to be Immune to being Frozen on top of being Burned.

The difference there is that the book says Grass is immune to Sleep (being a simplification of the spore/powder immunity from gen 6+).  Fire's never had the luxury of being immune to Frozen in the games, so it doesn't have it in pokerole's base rules either.

Besides, Magma Armor would be completely useless on the two pokemon families that have the ability (aside from its side effect of hatching eggs faster) if Fire was immune to Freeze, so...

[Spiritmon]

Chandelure is a Ghost Type and a spectral candelabra, is it even possible for this one to 'die'? o.o?

Ven knows how to kill Ghost types, ranging from blasting it with enough powerful moves to dissolve/annialate their corporial form, exorcising them with holy water and chants, to trying and forcibly create a soul bond connection with the spirit and EAT THEIR SOULS, and even more delightful ways to perma kill them! His interests not only extend to academic and a natural fondness for the Ghost type, but also how to best defend and destroy them if necessary! Cheshire's Cleanse Tags were a hole in his knowledge, though, since such methods didn't exist like that in Unova (So another thing Cheshrie does better than the rest of the world!), but he'll soon patch that up with Shiva's help in due time!

*Viktor hides behind Heart in that moment*

Please Windos, dont scare Viktor like that! He is cute...

[Lord Windos]

*Viktor hides behind Heart in that moment*

Please Windos, dont scare Viktor like that! He is cute...

Ven would NEVER murder an party member's Pokémon for any reason, unless it tried to murder him first, so Viktor and Haunter are safe and sound!

[Spiritmon]

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*Viktor hides behind Heart in that moment*

Please Windos, dont scare Viktor like that! He is cute...

Ven would NEVER murder an party member's Pokémon for any reason, unless it tried to murder him first, so Viktor and Haunter are safe and sound!

Relax. I know Ventus would never do that. And knowing Viktor he would never murder any of Heart friends. Talking about Heart pokemons, since Gustav finally have evolved, he can now living up by his name:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav

Schwerer Gustav. Cool name for a pokemon who have a literally canon in the hand. That is where Gustav name came from.