[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins

[Spiritmon]

Another question regardless Assist: The move this can make a pokemon a pokemon more or less talk like a person? Not fully like a human but sort of? Just curious.

[Dragonstrike]

Another question regardless Assist: The move this can make a pokemon a pokemon more or less talk like a person? Not fully like a human but sort of? Just curious.

For some context, @Iron, Spirit's asking because it's something the move can do in the Celadon campaign.  A pokemon that knows Assist can mimic a human's voice and speech patterns with enough practice/training in Celadon.  However, once they pick a voice to mimic, it's the only voice they can mimic via using Assist.  Reiner's Persian, Felicia, uses Assist to talk like her previous owner used to, for example.  (And Reiner got a good laugh out of it too, given she's not the first talking cat in Team Rocket's ranks. Unlike Meowth, though, Felicia can still actually use moves)

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

If I am allowed to voice myself about this, it already felt rather weird and somewhat unfitting there to me despite the reasoning. I personally would appreciate if we wouldn't even start with soft-mixing campaigns.

[Dragonstrike]

If I am allowed to voice myself about this, it already felt rather weird and somewhat unfitting there to me despite the reasoning. I personally would appreciate if we wouldn't even start with soft-mixing campaigns.

Given how weird the plot of Celadon eventually got, I'd actually argue that particular use of Assist is one of the more 'normal' things that's happened, tbh...

In any case, I don't have a particular preference either way for that use of Assist.  I'm just stating how it's been used in Celadon (which resulted from Windos's interpretation of Assist letting the user mimic the ability to perform simple tasks that humans are capable of)

[Lord Windos]

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No. Excuse me my dear, but this assumption is not correct. There's no chance at all for Shiva to listen in as she's inside that diner and is busy with things in there, ordering and eating breakfast there among her Pokemon takes longer than battling or catching Pokemon. Neither me outta-chara nor she in-chara wouldn't be very happy if she'll be left out in anything you wanted to share concerning Deoxy and/or your newly-gained MoreThanHuman-Status, if we'll be you'd be giving me no chance at all to react a bit to his changes at a proper opportunity. So please, unless you'd want to deliberately leave Shiva and perhaps Spira out of shared things (since, as said, he told he'd come into that diner once being done with scavenging, whether this has changed though I cannot know), can you please meet up with everyone first?

I also expressed a hope that you others would come into that diner for the next set of Encounters (proof), but none answered me on that somewhat important thing except Mika (thank you for that, by the way). You others got distracted by other things.

Windos, that's the second time in a short amount of time you're coming pretty close to having your fun in RP-related things at the expense of others, both times at the expense of me even. By no means I think this is on purpose, but please take a bit more care to not get too carried away from now on, alright? This isn't a nice nor fair thing to do.

(...) Anyways, when Nathan rejoins Terra, he gets straight to the point.  "Well, Gallade's telling me you feel a little better for the most part, Terra.  What's bothering you, though?"  He's not necessarily going to wait for everyone else to start this conversation since he's concerned about Terra and is the unofficial medical practitioner of the group. (...)

You also have to please excuse me for saying this, but being concerned isn't much of a good reason to start things probably leading to Terra's sharing of things concerning Deoxys and co. right away and before there is the slightest chance for rejoining with everyone, especially since there aren't any serious or visible injuries or that'd need immediate acting. Just because it is known that me and Shiva are less talkactive and open with her thoughts than the others/me not being there, it wouldn't be fair to assume we don't have anything to add to valid things. Please try to keep that in mind.

I was mostly occupied with other things and barely had time to play/properly read things here, which means I developed the assumption that the lizardlike Pokemon could be a Jungore rather late but shortly before it's been obviously stated. It's definitely better that I don't remember the Fortune Hunter stating anything about a Pokemon made of gold as if I did, it might get to XP Bidding as I'd be interested in catching and then gifting it to her. All's well on that front!

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It is true that medical problems don't ever wait, but it is just as true that Terra, who starred into these lights, isn't featuring any serious injuries or changes that'd need immediate treatment, as well as it would be wrong to assume that we others are not concerned for him: Shiva definitely is as she gave a soft-farewell when he went closer towards Deoxsy, it seems to almost completely get lost in the interactions between the others though - I wanted to try outplay a bit of that once he actually shares something about what he learned about this experience with the lights.

If there are too many ears within the diner, then I'd please like for someone, at best Terra himself,  to go fetch Shiva and if desired Spira for sharing things outside as well as it all maybe happening in a flashback so that we can progress with Encounters within the diner. Simple!

Spoiler

Hey now. Now you acting very rude. "Medical problems wait for none". Its not up to you to decide. But it is the GM. Phantom have reasons to delay in the posts. Everyone around here one time or other have reasons OOC to sometimes resolve things in real life and sometimes don't get enough time to post reactions about the events in the role-playing. You yourself have your own reasons to post here and Celadon City, so your not in position to judge others Dragonstrike. Heck Even delay my posts in the past.

Before say something about what is or what is not a problem to none, you should judge your own words my friend. And more importantly about say "hold a conversation".

I with Phantom this time, sorry.

.....Fingle fangle dangle nagle RAH! I leave for most of the day to get some studying and work done, and I see a meltdown that happened over Terra sharing his near traumatic experiences with the group in ways people don't like. Look, Phantom, Spiritmon, the reason I started to talk about Deoxys first with Nathan is because he approached me first about it before Terra could fully reunite with everyone else. I also assumed that simultaneously that everyone else would be able to attend the meeting in whatever way, be it the conversation being moved into a private location in the diner, the group gathering up at his or Nathan's behest, or simply just having the conversation taking place at an unspecificed but safe location in the future. In no way did I mean to piss on anyone's cornflakes for having Terra reciprocate Nathan's concern OR exclude anyone from his reveal, nor do I think that their wanting to do a prompt and immediate check up is unjustified in the context of the characters. Like I said during the war scenes, just because something seems 'wrong' OOC doesn't mean it isn't in some way 'right' or at least justified IC. Our characters are more than just us, but people too that should rightly care, think, and feel in their own right too, after all!

Additionally, I find the fact the two of you are ganging up on Dragonstrike just for acting out Nathan's legitimate concern for Terra's mental/physical health is not only egergious, but silly too. Especially when Terra and the other characters done the same thing as Nathan, and nobody got fussy about it. Heck, given that Terra has already been psychically assault by a Legendary before (Hi, MEW), they have all the more reason to be worried if Deoxys psychedelic light show contact scrambled their brain in worse ways than to be expected! Which, given the fact he has something kicking around his grey and white matter and got some info scooped out for it.....

To be clear, Terra nor I did not miss Shiva's farewells (Nor Heart/Nathan's, if they made any), but he was so out of it due to hypnosis that it just didn't register almost anything other than getting closer to the pretty Light. He's not likely to remember much in great detail in the span of time he was hypnotized, so don't expect him to know about all that too.

*Sighs* ....All I just wanted was to share this information so that the group was clued in to what some of Deoxys' purpose was in invanding the Earth AND figure out more about The Gift it gave him, but the last thing I expected was a shitstorm to brew up. Geez.....

Spoiler

I'm not assuming nobody else is concerned either.  I'm only RPing Nathan's concern for the situation.

If Terra expresses wanting to share this with everyone, Nathan will outright send Gallade to quickly fetch the party members in the diner.  Nathan wants to keep an eye on Terra at the moment.



I know it's not up to me to decide, Spirit.  I'm RPing something IC.  This isn't a problem with IC vs OOC lives, and I'm not trying to leave anyone out for expediency.

It's a given fact that illnesses don't typically wait for anything, and the nature of this is strange enough that Nathan's not sure what exactly is going on.  Unknown ailments can be much more dangerous than they first appear to be, hence why Nathan is emphasizing the importance of catching any symptoms early.  Even if nothing appears to be wrong at first, something very well still could be.

I'm not trying to judge anyone for their actions.  How ironic that I'm being judged for it, though...

Dragonstrike, I'm in full agreement with you here on this, so don't feel too put out mate. Things just.......get messy sometimes, as we well know from experience.

I'm perfectly fine with Gallade fetching everyone else at Terra's request for the whole group to hear him give that recounting/infodump somewhere more private. My character favors both sharing and efficiency, so this is the quickest and best way to get everyone together in minimum IC and OOC time.

[Iron]

Another question regardless Assist: The move this can make a pokemon a pokemon more or less talk like a person? Not fully like a human but sort of? Just curious.

For some context, @Iron, Spirit's asking because it's something the move can do in the Celadon campaign.  A pokemon that knows Assist can mimic a human's voice and speech patterns with enough practice/training in Celadon.  However, once they pick a voice to mimic, it's the only voice they can mimic via using Assist.  Reiner's Persian, Felicia, uses Assist to talk like her previous owner used to, for example.  (And Reiner got a good laugh out of it too, given she's not the first talking cat in Team Rocket's ranks.  Unlike Meowth, though, Felicia can still actually use moves)

That won't apply in this campaign. 



So yeah, where does the party head next? You know Shiva is inside the diner already. Perhaps you get a text from her saying what to expect: TVs with news on, lots of trainers, some unusual items on the menu, and even three Battling Rooms like Pokemon Centers have. 

Down the road will be similar to what you've experienced in the various ages.

[Lord Windos]

That won't apply in this campaign. 



So yeah, where does the party head next? You know Shiva is inside the diner already. Perhaps you get a text from her saying what to expect: TVs with news on, lots of trainers, some unusual items on the menu, and even three Battling Rooms like Pokemon Centers have. 

Down the road will be similar to what you've experienced in the various ages.

I'm personally fine with going into the dinner, regardless of possible Trainer battles/trades. It be nice to have a legitimate break for our characters for a change of pace. That, and since Shiva is already in there, we might as well join her and check out the place ourselves.

[Dragonstrike]

I'm personally fine with going into the dinner, regardless of possible Trainer battles/trades. It be nice to have a legitimate break for our characters for a change of pace. That, and since Shiva is already in there, we might as well join her and check out the place ourselves.

I see no reason not to either.  It can be assumed that Nathan's recalled Jungore into his pokeball before heading to it as well so as not to draw attention to him.

[Spiritmon]

I agree too. After so many deadly situations, a change of scenario would be very good. Rose will stay in the Pokeball to recover after the battle, but both Patrat and Meowth will stay out of their pokeballs for more freedom to go.

[PhantomUnderYourDesk]

So yeah, where does the party head next? You know Shiva is inside the diner already. Perhaps you get a text from her saying what to expect: TVs with news on, lots of trainers, some unusual items on the menu, and even three Battling Rooms like Pokemon Centers have. 

Down the road will be similar to what you've experienced in the various ages.

If that'd solve and reason things, I'd be all up for that, but we can assume that this text is sent automatically to everyone but Spira since he's already with her, means without me typing that out. I'm tired, mentally and physically.



@Lord Windos.... First, please don't blame me as... as the only bad one here. ( ._.) I don't like that. Yes, all of this is silly as heck, all of this is fun-saping like nothing and all of this is making me want to bash my head against the nearest wall in frustration and sadness. But, it could have been prevented if before reciprocating any of Nathan's immediate concern if you feel it's not as unreasoned as I feel it is, you'd state some simple words that you're gathering everyonelse first before starting to talk, which would be fine and wouldn't have caused a feeling of having to intercept from me. This....


....this is all I wished to state.

I don't feel like talking more about this now, maybe at a later point privately with you when the tempers have calmed down to try resolving things a bit better.