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[Meta thread] Iron's PokeRole Adventure: The Skull Ruins
(05-05-2019, 10:22 AM)Spiritmon Wrote:
Both options is great...but I think I will carry Posei with me during the journey. I already have a gigantic Pokemon to carry in my party who gonna be Quetzel, so having another big pokemon could limit my options in case we get trap in little places. And with Gustav Water Moves, when we get outside of battles, we can heal him with simple Water moves instead of use a Potion or a Heal Pulse. And based in previous experience both in and out of Skull Ruins, this is something very much important.

So Posei will go with me friend if you dont mind.

Quetzal isn't currently super massive since he only has 8 base HP.  Unless D-Onix are just naturally a lot smaller than a standard one, Quetzal is likely far from fully grown.  Of course, we don't know how much bigger he might become after he evolves...I'd guess 10 base HP/feet long though since Steelix has 2 more base HPthan Onix does.
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(05-05-2019, 11:48 AM)Dragonstrike Wrote:
(05-05-2019, 10:22 AM)Spiritmon Wrote:
Both options is great...but I think I will carry Posei with me during the journey. I already have a gigantic Pokemon to carry in my party who gonna be Quetzel, so having another big pokemon could limit my options in case we get trap in little places. And with Gustav Water Moves, when we get outside of battles, we can heal him with simple Water moves instead of use a Potion or a Heal Pulse. And based in previous experience both in and out of Skull Ruins, this is something very much important.

So Posei will go with me friend if you dont mind.

Quetzal isn't currently super massive since he only has 8 base HP.  Unless D-Onix are just naturally a lot smaller than a standard one, Quetzal is likely far from fully grown.  Of course, we don't know how much bigger he might become after he evolves...I'd guess 10 base HP/feet long though since Steelix has 2 more base HPthan Onix does.

Delta Onix are significantly smaller, but he could get bigger over time still.
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(05-05-2019, 06:39 AM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote: Okay. Since it's been asked so kindly and totally not because I'm so susceptible to encouragement, I'll update read myself properly and then carefully chip in to give my thoughts about the not-yet set teams. Which is mostly Nathan's if I saw that correctly?

I'll keep myself impartial as best as possible. What I obviously cannot know is which Pokemon of yours you're interested to train up more+bond with more, that's an inportant factor for me at least.



Aw....I love the input, dear! It's always a pleasure to see your thoughts and hear your opinoins, especially when they can have such a positive impact! Hopefully we'll have several more good ideas together on our trip going forward!

Now, time for my critique on yours!

Terra's: I mainly composed my team not on RP/XP Gains, but for a well rounded offensive/defensive unit that could counter most of the obvious threats in the Skull Ruins while also providing ample support to the whole group. As such, leaving behind Shiranui and most of his other Hoen Pokemon is fine by me and him, as both of us understand the necessity of building the right team for the situation on hand/in the future, and my chara. is very serious about his duty on top of that. Regarding Lapis...well, I don't minding him behind, especially since Spirit wants Posei over him. He already had trouble dealing with the Ghosts beforehand even if he did well against them, so my chara. has good IC reasons to not let him be loaned out beyond the underground being too crampt for them.

Nathan: I am personally happy to take all of your suggestions as replacements for Anubi, though I'd prefer either the wise king or the mimic, as they more easily fill his niche of being good offense with healing support avaliable. Ditto could actually replace any of Terra's Pokemon but Oinari, as they could just literally become them and any of Terra's others, with the only downside being their low HP and chaotic Transformations getting in the way of their ulti versitility. Personally I think Charizard could stand to be left behind too to make way for Emolga and/or Princess, and that Dedenne should seriously be considered on his team, due to them futzing Electronics/boosting their power (Might be possible for comms to still work with them around, especially if we carry transceivers), but that's besides the point.

Spira: I honestly don't know enough about all of their Pokemon to make an accurate judgement on their team, but what I see looks fine enough to me too. Dusknior in particular could cow those dastardly Duskulls/Dusklops so they don't be pests, and who knows how Ghost Travel could work in the S.Rs?

Heart: Nothing to say about their team, other than its fine as it is with or without Posei's addition, and that D-Onix should be brought along over the crow.

(05-05-2019, 10:25 AM)Dragonstrike Wrote:

To Nathan's suggestions....well, I don't see much problem with them, actually. Primal Glaceon's Ice type Offense isn't something that can easily be replicated in anyone else in the group, and can potentially become any other Eeveelution the group needs if we bring along the right Evo Stones. Your team is plenty stacked with support Pokemon, so having one or two high offensive threats among her number doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

Bringing along Umbreditto also sounds like a swell idea, if only because you'll pretty much have access to EVERYONE's Pokemon if we make the effort of showing off all our Pokemon to the Ditto before we leave on the dungeon dive (If they are brought along). I can understand if you rather leave them behind for more RP interactions with your chosen team, but you could still loan them out to anyone else that would be willing to house them. 

Finally, I'll reinterate my opinion on those three choices of yours, Dragonstrike: Disregarding IC reasons entirely, you should leave Emolga behind for Grid (If you're taking an Electric type) or Charizard (If you are not), as they don't have enough going for them to choose them over those two or for you to exclude other Pokemon while also building more weakness. Snivy would be excellent to have if there's space, as their control over vines and reliable healing + robust Move would ensure that they would last and more than carry their weight on the journey - especially if we run into those royal pain in the arses that are the Claydol and their vines. My opinion of Solosis has already been recently be said, but to be brief I'd like them on Nathan's or someone's team, as you can't say no to Screen Support + Snatch + Possibly After You support, and Skill Swap shenanigans is always ripe for experimentation and abuse.

That's all from me for now! I'll get back to you if I have anything more to say about the teams!
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*cuddles Primal Glaceon and suffers frostbites* There's still interest to trade for that Never-Melt Ice, but since you said you wish to keep it I didn't pry. If something about changes, please let me know, okay? ^_^


(05-05-2019, 10:25 AM)Dragonstrike Wrote: (...) Another pokemon I could add to that list is Shiva's Ditto.  Can serve the same purpose as Nathan's, but with much less randomness and a free transformation into Umbreon, so that allows for much more flexibility (including what's essentially immediate access to any of Shiva's pokemon and possibly other group members' as well) (...)

That Ditto will always go to sleep when having transformed into a female Umbreon, and my intuition tells me that she/them wouldn't really enjoy to be seperated from her/their mate and Eevee-son or being asked to transform into anythingelse. They're still pretty wild and untamed (but just obedient with 1 Loyalty vs 1 Custom-Disobediance) and I wish to keep them small familiy together, so while the thoughts are good, it's unfortunately not a real option.



Quote:As for your comments on my mons...well, there are a lot of pokemon I'd like to train with, but there are two that I'd like to squeeze in if possible.

- Emolga: we're looking for Marco now, so that's the main justification for bringing him since that's the big reason he joined Nathan's party in the first place.  Encore and Nuzzle are great moves, so are Acrobatics and Electro Ball if he learns them.  Not worried about Rock types when at least half of Nathan's team has moves SE against them.

- Snivy: the other pokemon who joined to help with Ruins business.  Not as high priority as Emolga since we might not be dealing with the source of the Vines during this trip, though.  Might still be helpful to have in case we encounter the Vines/Tangrowth/Claydol, though.

- And then I'm also considering Solosis since she's basically the only dual screens user in the party atm, and I do want to use her a little more as well.


In that case I'd replace Grid with Emolga and put effort into them learning Electro Ball fast to put your huge Dext into good use in combo with Nuzzle. Encore is a nice trick that Raphael can use as well. Hehehe....

If Snivy wishes to be added, then I'd take them instead of Ditto, but me fears the advantage of doing so is relatively small compared to the disadvantage, not looking at in-chara reasons. I remember that this Sniva has lots of good moves including Coil, but your other 'Mon are already offensive enough that it feels like a good choice to add a versatile supporter like Ditto instead of the grassy snake.

Access to both screens sounds pretty good and useful, but if I struggle to find a 'Mon to replace with them in your team apart from maybe Ditto. I'd definitely advice to keep them with Nathan = not loan them to any other chara for various reasons though, you probably understand why.
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Here's the artwork of Shiva and Whimsi I mentioned somewhere, enjoy. My scanner appearantly likes to mess up colors, digital editing is fun but can only do that much. ( ̄ω ̄; ) I can totally imagine her having such a soppy pink cup.
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(05-05-2019, 02:55 PM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote: Here's the artwork of Shiva and Whimsi I mentioned somewhere, enjoy. My scanner appearantly likes to mess up colors, digital editing is fun but can only do that much. ( ̄ω ̄; ) I can totally imagine her having such a soppy pink cup.

Aww, it is really beautiful this drawing. The happiness of Shiva Cottonee, I mean, Whiscott can be see in that picture. Great job Phantom!
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(05-05-2019, 02:55 PM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote: Here's the artwork of Shiva and Whimsi I mentioned somewhere, enjoy. My scanner appearantly likes to mess up colors, digital editing is fun but can only do that much. ( ̄ω ̄; ) I can totally imagine her having such a soppy pink cup.

Yet again, you've done a simply marvelous job, my dear! Honestly, I should get you to make a character portrait for Ven and Terra sometime, as I know you'd do as good of a job with them as you do with Shiva!
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(05-05-2019, 02:55 PM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote: Here's the artwork of Shiva and Whimsi I mentioned somewhere, enjoy. My scanner appearantly likes to mess up colors, digital editing is fun but can only do that much. ( ̄ω ̄; ) I can totally imagine her having such a soppy pink cup.

Definitely worth +2 XP!! Twitch is spriting your evo design right now, btw! Speaking of art!
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(05-05-2019, 01:02 PM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote:

No shame in asking to borrow stuff, particularly when we're about to go on a major group mission and are trying to optimize things for it.  If I do decide to trade it after all, I'll definitely let you know.

I think more specifically it's that Ditto always ends the day Transforming into an Umbreon, not that they're getting ready to sleep when they turn into one.  Ditto can always turn back into forms they took prior in the day without using an additional Transform slot.  Another thing to consider is that Umbreon and Ditto probably don't want to put Eevee in any danger, and one of them would prefer to stay with the young one (probably Umbreon most of the time) while the other fights off the danger (typically Ditto I imagine due to how powerful Transform is, like when we visited Ancestor Cave).  It's just a little hypothesizing about their behavior based on what little we've seen of them so far, but it's a place to start.  If Ditto knows it's helping to fight for the safety of its family, maybe it wouldn't mind being away from them for a short time so much.
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(05-05-2019, 02:55 PM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote: Here's the artwork of Shiva and Whimsi I mentioned somewhere, enjoy. My scanner appearantly likes to mess up colors, digital editing is fun but can only do that much. ( ̄ω ̄; ) I can totally imagine her having such a soppy pink cup.

Artwork's as good as usual.  Much like Windos, I am also kinda curious about how you'd depict the rest of the Skull Ruins cast...though I understand that might not necessarily happen.  Making art definitely isn't a short process if you want it to be good, after all.
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