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(06-20-2020, 08:42 AM)Spiritmon Wrote: Iron, since Shiva have a plan, I halt in my action in go flying towards Cocancer and let her do the thing. In case it didnt work, Heart will request the Frozen Roar and try to connect to Giant Cocancer using his Earthpower. Is this acceptable @Phantom?
Ah, if we can't work directly work together on this then let's do what you suggest, that sounds agreeable. I still wish for both of us (Heart and Shiva) to have ther chance to follow their plan here, so we could possibly do it like this: Shiva speaks up towards Huge Cocancer as stated in GameThread, then she hands the FrozenRoar back to Heart to try his thing; it basically swtching the FrozenRoar between ourselves. How does that sound?
Besides, while Shiva does her thing, you can even help by drawing Heart's instrument he got from the League after defeating Deoxys and play along! Up to do that?
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(06-20-2020, 09:33 AM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote:
Ah, if we can't work directly work together on this then let's do what you suggest, that sounds agreeable. I still wish for both of us (Heart and Shiva) to have ther chance to follow their plan here, so we could possibly do it like this: Shiva speaks up towards Huge Cocancer as stated in GameThread, then she hands the FrozenRoar back to Heart to try his thing; it basically swtching the FrozenRoar between ourselves. How does that sound?
Besides, while Shiva does her thing, you can even help by drawing Heart's instrument he got from the League after defeating Deoxys and play along! Up to do that?
Ah in that case then yes. Shiva and Heart can work together yes, with Shiva acting as the pacifist and Heart the link between them we could stop Cocancer. So my answer is yes, let's put to work our plans.
And a little question: What instrument you are talking about? It is the Frozen Roar or something else?
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(06-20-2020, 10:48 AM)Spiritmon Wrote: And a little question: What instrument you are talking about? It is the Frozen Roar or something else?
Somethingelse. It's an instrument of our choice that we received in a package from Prof.Mallorn as a reward for saving the region from Deoxys Prime:
(10-22-2019, 09:54 PM)Iron Wrote: (...)Instruments (your choice) from the Ruins that reduce a Pokemon's Will by 1 for purposes of being caught, as they are calmed by the music.(...) Here's the link towards the post.
Works without the purpose of being caught too, for example how Shiva used her flute to lure in alienmon and calm down the caged Pokemon in the lab, so if Heart-Shiva-Terra play a soothing melody on their instruments all together and ampliefied by the FrozenRoar, it might calm Huge Cocancer nicely.
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(06-20-2020, 11:08 AM)PhantomUnderYourDesk Wrote: (06-20-2020, 10:48 AM)Spiritmon Wrote: And a little question: What instrument you are talking about? It is the Frozen Roar or something else?
Somethingelse. It's an instrument of our choice that we received in a package from Prof.Mallorn as a reward for saving the region from Deoxys Prime:
(10-22-2019, 09:54 PM)Iron Wrote: (...)Instruments (your choice) from the Ruins that reduce a Pokemon's Will by 1 for purposes of being caught, as they are calmed by the music.(...) Here's the link towards the post.
Works without the purpose of being caught too, for example how Shiva used her flute to lure in alienmon and calm down the caged Pokemon in the lab, so if Heart-Shiva-Terra play a soothing melody on their instruments all together and ampliefied by the FrozenRoar, it might calm Huge Cocancer nicely.
Hmm...then in that case Heart instrument is a harp. It's might be fitting for currently situation
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...having characters unwilling to support this campaign's main message and themes under any circumstances must be a real headache.
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??????????????????
Do I understand that correctly, due to something Nathan said/pointed out, both Terra and Ventus now disagree with the plan that Shiva brought up and that looked like it'll resolve everything in a peaceful way?? That's.... not entirely a pleasant thing, you know. And means that either there's need for a completely new plan, Nathan needs to change his wording to not have Terra/Ven change their mind, or Terra/Ven need to rethink.
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I already specifically worded it like that because of Windos's characters, thank you very much.
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(06-22-2020, 05:50 AM)Dragonstrike Wrote: I already specifically worded it like that because of Windos's characters, thank you very much.
Wait a minute.....you were deliberately trying to get Ventus and Terra on board with Landos' pledge indirectly with that last minute addendum to Shiva's plan, and perhaps also trying to make Ven more genuinely heroic in the process? That's.....pretty clever, actually, I have to admit. Didn't work, but I have to admire that ploy none the less for its sneakiness!
Given that Heart, Nathan, and Shiva are all already have more or less agreed to Shiva's plan and wouldn't have any problems with upholding Landos will (Since they all swore an oath to it, unlike Ven and Terra), the reconstruction and relocation plan should still be able to go forward from an OOC decision making perspective, just without Ventus' or Terra's help or participation in it. Lucifer will just pluck Terra off from Tropius and FLY off towards where the Genesect Fossil lay hidden underneath the waves while everyone else deals with the colossal crustacean! Simple, right?
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I was intentionally keeping it as neutral and natural sounding as I could to keep it simple and easy to understand, and not aiming it at anyone specifically except the military. It's nothing legally binding, either. Honestly, I think Ven and Terra are way overreacting at this point. The paranoia is unnecessary.
What's so wrong about promoting eco friendlyness, pledge or no?
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(06-22-2020, 11:08 AM)Dragonstrike Wrote: I was intentionally keeping it as neutral and natural sounding as I could to keep it simple and easy to understand, and not aiming it at anyone specifically except the military. It's nothing legally binding, either. Honestly, I think Ven and Terra are way overreacting at this point. The paranoia is unnecessary.
What's so wrong about promoting eco friendlyness, pledge or no?
Eco friendliness having precedent over Humanity doesn't gel well with Ventus, as he's of the mind of 'Humanity takes care of itself first, THEN everything else if it can WITHOUT compromising the gains it has made' , so anything that remotely goes against that belief gets some raised eyebrows from him automatically. Combine that with his heightened and growing agitation + paranoia ever since he first landed on Garliburg , his existing desire to just leave the military to settle its issues with TITANTIC COCANCER ,and a mere hint of Landos' Oath, and he's suddenly had a change of heart and wants nothing to do with ANYTHING involving the crab.
Terra's reason for rejecting eco friendliness is much simpler: he does't, but he can't and won't put it above his boss, friends, and Pokemon + their own interests. Alone he's probably more environmentally conscious and savvy that anyone else in the group, but when thinking about it with everyone else and his own duties in mind....he just can't risk doing the plan. If it makes you feel any better Terra himself feels like a complete arsehole for ditching everyone, so Nathan's not alone in their reproach for pulling a Switcheroo on their agreement.
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